This is what a friend of mine asked me a while back:
Okay friend, gimme your side on this! And take as long as you want...
The following is from someone named Robert Reich.
{The best (and only good) thing to come out of the government shutdown and possible default is the awakening of a large portion of the public to what today's Republican Party is really up to. In an NBC/Wall Street Journal survey released Thursday evening, just 24% have a favorable opinion of Republicans while 47% have a favorable opinion of the President. According other polls, if the 2014 election were held today Democrats would have a good chance of winning 24 Republican-held House districts, giving them control of the House.
Are Republican supporters in the white working class coming to realize that the GOP's faux populism masks a dogged defense of the privileged and powerful? For years Republicans have used their snake-oil "trickle-down" economics to justify lower taxes on the wealthy and corporations, even though nothing has trickled down. They've described the poor as "takers" in order to distract attention from the reality of declining median incomes, even as almost all economic gains go to the very top. Their drumbeat against big government has disguised the torrent of money they've raised from the wealthy, big corporations, and Wall Street, in exchange for special tax breaks, loopholes, and subsidies that entrench privilege and power. Is this elaborate masquerade now coming to a close?}
This is my response:
I am not going to debate his opinions in the first paragraph, because they are his opinions.
I will never be voting liberal, be it Democrat or Republican.
So the voting, if it were up to just me, would go to the group most willing to repeal Obamacare (and come up with something better and more comprehensible, that includes being able to buy insurance across state lines and tort reform), quit screwing with gun rights, make gay marriage and abortion a states' issue rather than federal, get their hands out of my pockets, and quit deciding FOR me who my charity should support.
I do not want what I didn't EARN honestly, and neither should anyone else.
I want to help all those who CAN'T help themselves, but (and this is true no matter how few or how many there are) I will be glad to let those who WON'T help themselves starve.
I pay attention to the people around me and the things they say, I watch what goes on right in front of my eyes: NOT ON TV.
I go look at things being put out by people who don't agree with me.
I have come to the conclusion that sneakiness and dishonesty are rampant in every government entitlement system. People who were first allowed to use the welfare system (and I have used it, short-term as was intended) are ushering their grandchildren into it, and their great-grandchildren. That system was supposed to be a stepping-stone to social productivity and becoming an asset to the nation, one's family, and one's community. This is not what has occurred, in too many cases. I do not deny that there should be a safety net.....but it should not be used to live one's entire life in. The truly incapable of helping themselves are a different story. They deserve our help and as decent folk we should help them. But each person should decide where what they earn should go for charitable purposes, not the government.
I support complete replacement of the tax code with something sensible and very different, be it the Flat Tax, Fair Tax, 9-9-9, or one of the others that makes SO much more sense than the train wreck of a tax code we have now. If everyone just paid 10%, it would be fair. People making $10 million would pay their 10%, people making $100,000 would pay theirs, and people making $10,000 would pay theirs. No loopholes. At all. For anyone. No breaks. At ALL. The rich would still pay more in than the poor, but everyone's percentage would be equal. I can get behind that. I don't want any tax breaks, bailouts, or BS any more.
I am nowhere near rich, I promise you. But what I believe is this: By letting people not be tested, strained, pushed, put in any adversity, or have to think for themselves, we do all Humanity a disservice. The greatest innovations come when we have to work for it. Great people and great advances are not made from or by people with nothing to work for. We need adversity, struggle, conflict, the daily striving for our living. Without that, we become soft, lazy, and complacent, and that will be the end of us all.
I see the liberal attitude as a "make it easy for everyone" perspective. I don't want to make it easy for everyone. I just want the FREEDOM for it to be POSSIBLE for everyone, but only if they work for it. I have had to, and I have begun again several times. I earned what I have, and I am proud of that even if it's not much. I would rather be living in a shack in an alley that I earned than in a mansion I stole or that was given to me, especially if it was taken from someone who actually DID earn it.
When I was very well-off, and when I was in the Army, I often fed the homeless or hungry, paid for urgent care visits for them, paid bills for people who had some bad luck after working hard for most of their lives.
I do not defend the heartless and cruel, I will not defend such as the ever evil and awful Monsanto...They are AWFUL. But if a person has earned what they have, taking it away and giving it to someone who has not worked hard is stealing.
A question that makes sense to me is : How much of what you earned does your neighbor deserve to get? The answer, as far as I am concerned, is : as much as you give of your own free choice. I know I would give more if I had more left over. I know that my healthcare costs actually exceed what I pay out of pocket yearly for care.
And I know that I hear people in the halls and markets laughing because they have six Obamaphones, and they just got their sibling's kids on their welfare and hers, too....... Not isolated incidents of hearing about fraud or abuse that literally takes money from my pocket. I see people at convenience stores buying beer with EBT cards when I go in to pay for gas or get a bottle of water. I see these same people driving late model expensive cars and bragging about "having the system down." What exactly am I supposed to think?
Anyway, I am not in favor of the big companies' behavior, but don't think that means I want to go on paying for people that won't work.
I want to change the taxes and regulations to make a better environment for smaller businesses, I want to outlaw GMO foods, I want to get people excited about working hard to get to better places rather than sit still in a barely adequate place because it's safe. I want to pitch out ALL of the career politicians and do the whole mess like jury duty. I want to be able to pass on a country that values hard work and strength of character to my grandchildren and children. Am I answering your questions? If not, please be specific.
Thought y'all might want to comment or just see this.
Okay friend, gimme your side on this! And take as long as you want...
The following is from someone named Robert Reich.
{The best (and only good) thing to come out of the government shutdown and possible default is the awakening of a large portion of the public to what today's Republican Party is really up to. In an NBC/Wall Street Journal survey released Thursday evening, just 24% have a favorable opinion of Republicans while 47% have a favorable opinion of the President. According other polls, if the 2014 election were held today Democrats would have a good chance of winning 24 Republican-held House districts, giving them control of the House.
Are Republican supporters in the white working class coming to realize that the GOP's faux populism masks a dogged defense of the privileged and powerful? For years Republicans have used their snake-oil "trickle-down" economics to justify lower taxes on the wealthy and corporations, even though nothing has trickled down. They've described the poor as "takers" in order to distract attention from the reality of declining median incomes, even as almost all economic gains go to the very top. Their drumbeat against big government has disguised the torrent of money they've raised from the wealthy, big corporations, and Wall Street, in exchange for special tax breaks, loopholes, and subsidies that entrench privilege and power. Is this elaborate masquerade now coming to a close?}
This is my response:
I am not going to debate his opinions in the first paragraph, because they are his opinions.
I will never be voting liberal, be it Democrat or Republican.
So the voting, if it were up to just me, would go to the group most willing to repeal Obamacare (and come up with something better and more comprehensible, that includes being able to buy insurance across state lines and tort reform), quit screwing with gun rights, make gay marriage and abortion a states' issue rather than federal, get their hands out of my pockets, and quit deciding FOR me who my charity should support.
I do not want what I didn't EARN honestly, and neither should anyone else.
I want to help all those who CAN'T help themselves, but (and this is true no matter how few or how many there are) I will be glad to let those who WON'T help themselves starve.
I pay attention to the people around me and the things they say, I watch what goes on right in front of my eyes: NOT ON TV.
I go look at things being put out by people who don't agree with me.
I have come to the conclusion that sneakiness and dishonesty are rampant in every government entitlement system. People who were first allowed to use the welfare system (and I have used it, short-term as was intended) are ushering their grandchildren into it, and their great-grandchildren. That system was supposed to be a stepping-stone to social productivity and becoming an asset to the nation, one's family, and one's community. This is not what has occurred, in too many cases. I do not deny that there should be a safety net.....but it should not be used to live one's entire life in. The truly incapable of helping themselves are a different story. They deserve our help and as decent folk we should help them. But each person should decide where what they earn should go for charitable purposes, not the government.
I support complete replacement of the tax code with something sensible and very different, be it the Flat Tax, Fair Tax, 9-9-9, or one of the others that makes SO much more sense than the train wreck of a tax code we have now. If everyone just paid 10%, it would be fair. People making $10 million would pay their 10%, people making $100,000 would pay theirs, and people making $10,000 would pay theirs. No loopholes. At all. For anyone. No breaks. At ALL. The rich would still pay more in than the poor, but everyone's percentage would be equal. I can get behind that. I don't want any tax breaks, bailouts, or BS any more.
I am nowhere near rich, I promise you. But what I believe is this: By letting people not be tested, strained, pushed, put in any adversity, or have to think for themselves, we do all Humanity a disservice. The greatest innovations come when we have to work for it. Great people and great advances are not made from or by people with nothing to work for. We need adversity, struggle, conflict, the daily striving for our living. Without that, we become soft, lazy, and complacent, and that will be the end of us all.
I see the liberal attitude as a "make it easy for everyone" perspective. I don't want to make it easy for everyone. I just want the FREEDOM for it to be POSSIBLE for everyone, but only if they work for it. I have had to, and I have begun again several times. I earned what I have, and I am proud of that even if it's not much. I would rather be living in a shack in an alley that I earned than in a mansion I stole or that was given to me, especially if it was taken from someone who actually DID earn it.
When I was very well-off, and when I was in the Army, I often fed the homeless or hungry, paid for urgent care visits for them, paid bills for people who had some bad luck after working hard for most of their lives.
I do not defend the heartless and cruel, I will not defend such as the ever evil and awful Monsanto...They are AWFUL. But if a person has earned what they have, taking it away and giving it to someone who has not worked hard is stealing.
A question that makes sense to me is : How much of what you earned does your neighbor deserve to get? The answer, as far as I am concerned, is : as much as you give of your own free choice. I know I would give more if I had more left over. I know that my healthcare costs actually exceed what I pay out of pocket yearly for care.
And I know that I hear people in the halls and markets laughing because they have six Obamaphones, and they just got their sibling's kids on their welfare and hers, too....... Not isolated incidents of hearing about fraud or abuse that literally takes money from my pocket. I see people at convenience stores buying beer with EBT cards when I go in to pay for gas or get a bottle of water. I see these same people driving late model expensive cars and bragging about "having the system down." What exactly am I supposed to think?
Anyway, I am not in favor of the big companies' behavior, but don't think that means I want to go on paying for people that won't work.
I want to change the taxes and regulations to make a better environment for smaller businesses, I want to outlaw GMO foods, I want to get people excited about working hard to get to better places rather than sit still in a barely adequate place because it's safe. I want to pitch out ALL of the career politicians and do the whole mess like jury duty. I want to be able to pass on a country that values hard work and strength of character to my grandchildren and children. Am I answering your questions? If not, please be specific.
Thought y'all might want to comment or just see this.